by Iranu » 13 May 2022 Read
mick745 wrote:At the moment but we've only been measuring athletics records for a very short period of time. In 1000 years time 7ft tall humans with huge leg strides may be commonplace. If people get gradually stronger, faster, taller etc over many generations then over a very long period of time this will have a big change.
Exactly. Human biology isn’t static, and in the grand scheme of things we’re still in the
very early stages of development when it comes to recording and measuring speed, strength etc.
Related, this article is mildly interesting regarding a fossil from 20,000 years ago:
https://pacificans.com/does-this-20000- ... n-history/
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by Johnny Bravo » 13 May 2022 Read
mick745 wrote:At the moment but we've only been measuring athletics records for a very short period of time. In 1000 years time 7ft tall humans with huge leg strides may be commonplace. If people get gradually stronger, faster, taller etc over many generations then over a very long period of time this will have a big change.
Hey that's not fair. If humans get to 7ft tall on average, it will look like we are a completely different species.
But even so, you would need 7 footers that are proportionate. Atm, most men that are that tall are not properly proportioned. And they also don't have quite as good coordination of limbs.
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by Holden Chinaski » 13 May 2022 Read
Johnny Bravo wrote:mick745 wrote:At the moment but we've only been measuring athletics records for a very short period of time. In 1000 years time 7ft tall humans with huge leg strides may be commonplace. If people get gradually stronger, faster, taller etc over many generations then over a very long period of time this will have a big change.
Hey that's not fair. If humans get to 7ft tall on average, it will look like we are a completely different species.
But even so, you would need 7 footers that are proportionate. Atm, most men that are that tall are not properly proportioned. And they also don't have quite as good coordination of limbs.
I bet you’re a manlet.
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by Johnny Bravo » 13 May 2022 Read
Holden Chinaski wrote:Johnny Bravo wrote:mick745 wrote:At the moment but we've only been measuring athletics records for a very short period of time. In 1000 years time 7ft tall humans with huge leg strides may be commonplace. If people get gradually stronger, faster, taller etc over many generations then over a very long period of time this will have a big change.
Hey that's not fair. If humans get to 7ft tall on average, it will look like we are a completely different species.
But even so, you would need 7 footers that are proportionate. Atm, most men that are that tall are not properly proportioned. And they also don't have quite as good coordination of limbs.
I bet you’re a manlet.
I'm short, but I'm not into bodybuilding. Too much muscle mass is ugly, especially on a short person.
I'm pretty fit and well built for my size, but I don't have a bodybuilder physique. I don't like it and it wouldn't look good on me.
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by Iranu » 13 May 2022 Read
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by Acé » 14 May 2022 Read
Ronnie by a clear mile in fact beating Trump in the world final is worth 2 extra world championships
age difference is 14 years and Trump's in his prime while Ronnie isn't, can you imagine a 46 year old Jimmy White beating Ronnie in his prime at the World Champs? Or 46 year Hendry beating a prime Ronnie?
zero chance, they'd get slaughtered 18-0 because they were a non factor at 46
Were they even playing at 94% pot success at that age across 17 days?
Ronnie has humbled me massively it is not even a question at this point, Hendry has nothing going for him
He is definitely winning #9 I have no doubt
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by shanew48 » 14 May 2022 Read
Obviously as you rightly point out both players have different attributes towards being considered the greatest, Hendry for his total dominance for 10 years and being the youngest WC and Ronnie for most rankers, most TC's.
In the end everyone will have their own view who they feel is in fact the greatest!
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by Holden Chinaski » 14 May 2022 Read
shanew48 wrote:Obviously as you rightly point out both players have different attributes towards being considered the greatest, Hendry for his total dominance for 10 years and being the youngest WC and Ronnie for most rankers, most TC's.
In the end everyone will have their own view who they feel is in fact the greatest!
Take a look at the poll votes. It’s Ronnie.
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by Prop » 14 May 2022 Read
It’s quite amusing hearing people clutching at straws so desperately to reframe Hendry’s accolades.
Why is it only now people are putting so much emphasis on Hendry being the youngest World Champion? Because it’s all you’ve got! And suddenly Hendry seems to have lots of new support. Funny that
It’s all absolute bullocks. And you know it. You just can’t come to terms with the fact that your most hated player is by far the greatest there has ever been. Hendry’s a firm 2nd place. But Hendry himself knows that 2nd is the same as losing.
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by Johnny Bravo » 14 May 2022 Read
Prop wrote:It’s quite amusing hearing people clutching at straws so desperately to reframe Hendry’s accolades.
Why is it only now people are putting so much emphasis on Hendry being the youngest World Champion? Because it’s all you’ve got! And suddenly Hendry seems to have lots of new support. Funny that
It’s all absolute bullocks. And you know it. You just can’t come to terms with the fact that your most hated player is by far the greatest there has ever been. Hendry’s a firm 2nd place. But Hendry himself knows that 2nd is the same as losing.
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by Andre147 » 14 May 2022 Read
Prop wrote:It’s quite amusing hearing people clutching at straws so desperately to reframe Hendry’s accolades.
Why is it only now people are putting so much emphasis on Hendry being the youngest World Champion? Because it’s all you’ve got! And suddenly Hendry seems to have lots of new support. Funny that
It’s all absolute bullocks. And you know it. You just can’t come to terms with the fact that your most hated player is by far the greatest there has ever been. Hendry’s a firm 2nd place. But Hendry himself knows that 2nd is the same as losing.
Youngest world champion, 5 consecutive titles, plus 8 consecutive years as WN1 can't be ignored.
But, having said all things, and when you put every record Ronnie has got together, there is no doubt Ronnie comes 1st place, Hendry a firm 2nd as you said.
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by shanew48 » 14 May 2022 Read
Prop wrote:It’s quite amusing hearing people clutching at straws so desperately to reframe Hendry’s accolades.
Why is it only now people are putting so much emphasis on Hendry being the youngest World Champion? Because it’s all you’ve got! And suddenly Hendry seems to have lots of new support. Funny that
It’s all absolute bullocks. And you know it. You just can’t come to terms with the fact that your most hated player is by far the greatest there has ever been. Hendry’s a firm 2nd place. But Hendry himself knows that 2nd is the same as losing.
I feel that Hendrys accomplishment's put him up there, like I say different people will have different views won't they!
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by Holden Chinaski » 14 May 2022 Read
shanew48 wrote:Prop wrote:It’s quite amusing hearing people clutching at straws so desperately to reframe Hendry’s accolades.
Why is it only now people are putting so much emphasis on Hendry being the youngest World Champion? Because it’s all you’ve got! And suddenly Hendry seems to have lots of new support. Funny that
It’s all absolute bullocks. And you know it. You just can’t come to terms with the fact that your most hated player is by far the greatest there has ever been. Hendry’s a firm 2nd place. But Hendry himself knows that 2nd is the same as losing.
I feel that Hendrys accomplishment's put him up there, like I say different people will have different views won't they!
Ronnie has won more. Hendry is now second.
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by Prop » 14 May 2022 Read
shanew48 wrote:Prop wrote:It’s quite amusing hearing people clutching at straws so desperately to reframe Hendry’s accolades.
Why is it only now people are putting so much emphasis on Hendry being the youngest World Champion? Because it’s all you’ve got! And suddenly Hendry seems to have lots of new support. Funny that
It’s all absolute bullocks. And you know it. You just can’t come to terms with the fact that your most hated player is by far the greatest there has ever been. Hendry’s a firm 2nd place. But Hendry himself knows that 2nd is the same as losing.
I feel that Hendrys accomplishment's put him up there, like I say different people will have different views won't they!
Put him up where exactly? There’s no room for ambiguity here, the poll specifically asks who is the greater player. There’s no option for “up there”.
We know who you voted for anyway. And we know why. Sad
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by shanew48 » 14 May 2022 Read
Your boy is the clear favourite to win SPOTY this year! excited much? Fury 2nd favourite by some distance!
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by shanew48 » 14 May 2022 Read
Prop wrote:shanew48 wrote:Prop wrote:It’s quite amusing hearing people clutching at straws so desperately to reframe Hendry’s accolades.
Why is it only now people are putting so much emphasis on Hendry being the youngest World Champion? Because it’s all you’ve got! And suddenly Hendry seems to have lots of new support. Funny that
It’s all absolute bullocks. And you know it. You just can’t come to terms with the fact that your most hated player is by far the greatest there has ever been. Hendry’s a firm 2nd place. But Hendry himself knows that 2nd is the same as losing.
I feel that Hendrys accomplishment's put him up there, like I say different people will have different views won't they!
Put him up where exactly? There’s no room for ambiguity here, the poll specifically asks who is the greater player. There’s no option for “up there”.
We know who you voted for anyway. And we know why. Sad
I actually voted for Ronnie, was just weighing up other factors but in the end came down on the side of ROS
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by Andre147 » 15 May 2022 Read
shanew48 wrote:Your boy is the clear favourite to win SPOTY this year! excited much? Fury 2nd favourite by some distance!
SPOTY doesn't mean much, if anything.
Ok it would be nice if a great sportsman like Ronnie O'Sullivan won it, but he said it himself he wont be fussed if he doesnt.
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by Johnny Bravo » 15 May 2022 Read
shanew48 wrote:I feel that Hendrys accomplishment's put him up there, like I say different people will have different views won't they!
Hendry only got those accomplishments cause he faced weak opposition.
White basically gifted him 2 world titles. Hallet crumbled like a cookie and gave him a Masters.
And I could go on.
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by Prop » 15 May 2022 Read
shanew48 wrote:Prop wrote:shanew48 wrote:Prop wrote:It’s quite amusing hearing people clutching at straws so desperately to reframe Hendry’s accolades.
Why is it only now people are putting so much emphasis on Hendry being the youngest World Champion? Because it’s all you’ve got! And suddenly Hendry seems to have lots of new support. Funny that
It’s all absolute bullocks. And you know it. You just can’t come to terms with the fact that your most hated player is by far the greatest there has ever been. Hendry’s a firm 2nd place. But Hendry himself knows that 2nd is the same as losing.
I feel that Hendrys accomplishment's put him up there, like I say different people will have different views won't they!
Put him up where exactly? There’s no room for ambiguity here, the poll specifically asks who is the greater player. There’s no option for “up there”.
We know who you voted for anyway. And we know why. Sad
I actually voted for Ronnie, was just weighing up other factors but in the end came down on the side of ROS
Really? Well I have no evidence to disprove that. Plenty of reasons, but I’ll just have to take your word for it.
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by Prop » 15 May 2022 Read
Anyone can argue a case for any particular player if they try hard enough. The poll results are what really shows us the broader consensus. And it’s pretty one-sided. It’s not quite as close as some people would like to think.
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by mick745 » 15 May 2022 Read
There are only three players that can be considered in the goat debate, Davis, Hendry and O' Sullivan.
These three all revolutionised the sport in a some way, no other players can really be said to have done that.
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by Prop » 15 May 2022 Read
mick745 wrote:There are only three players that can be considered in the goat debate, Davis, Hendry and O' Sullivan.
These three all revolutionised the sport in a some way, no other players can really be said to have done that.
Alex was instrumental in bringing the sport into the spotlight early on. So he was a very important figure in snooker’s story. But yes, I know what you’re saying. In terms of how a player impacts the sport itself and rewrites the way the game is played, Davis, Hendry and Ronnie were all huge milestones. They all inspired generations of young players to first start playing snooker, but they also inspired those young players to play the game a particular way.
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by Andre147 » 15 May 2022 Read
Davis made the game look professional like never seen before. Hendry was the pioneer of the attacking game we see today. Ronnie is the flamboyant style with the attacking game, plus a winning machine. One could say Ronnie got all those aspects from past great players right.
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by TheRocket » 15 May 2022 Read
I dont think Davis is a GOAT candidate tbh. He is a true legend of the game and he is a Tier 1 player for me alongside the other two but he is also the 'weakest player' in that very elite group. Hendry and ROS both have surpassed him.
Its only ROS and Hendry who are in the position to be called the Greatest and by winning his 7th World title Ronnie should be in the driving seat now.
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by shanew48 » 16 May 2022 Read
Prop wrote:shanew48 wrote:Prop wrote:shanew48 wrote:Prop wrote:It’s quite amusing hearing people clutching at straws so desperately to reframe Hendry’s accolades.
Why is it only now people are putting so much emphasis on Hendry being the youngest World Champion? Because it’s all you’ve got! And suddenly Hendry seems to have lots of new support. Funny that
It’s all absolute bullocks. And you know it. You just can’t come to terms with the fact that your most hated player is by far the greatest there has ever been. Hendry’s a firm 2nd place. But Hendry himself knows that 2nd is the same as losing.
I feel that Hendrys accomplishment's put him up there, like I say different people will have different views won't they!
Put him up where exactly? There’s no room for ambiguity here, the poll specifically asks who is the greater player. There’s no option for “up there”.
We know who you voted for anyway. And we know why. Sad
I actually voted for Ronnie, was just weighing up other factors but in the end came down on the side of ROS
Really? Well I have no evidence to disprove that. Plenty of reasons, but I’ll just have to take your word for it.
Is there any way that the OP or admin can see who voted which way? if they can then that will prove that I am telling the truth.
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