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Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby vodkadiet1 » 18 Feb 2021 Read

Pink Ball wrote:I believe O’Sullivan is a genius. I also believe I am a genius. Nobody delivers post as quickly and accurately as I can.


I agree that you are a genius Pink Ball. I am also a genius as I can hold urine in for so long that when I eventually urinate I can keep a full flow going for 8 minutes.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby vodkadiet1 » 18 Feb 2021 Read

Dan-cat wrote:My auntie Nora once farted for 5 minutes


At least it wasn't your auntie Doris!!

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby vodkadiet1 » 18 Feb 2021 Read

Alex0paul wrote:There are no geniuses in snooker for god sake


Heavy words so lightly thrown and bang on the money.

Although I hear Olivier Marteel's skills as a surgeon are borderline genius.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby shanew48 » 18 Feb 2021 Read

vodkadiet1 wrote:
Alex0paul wrote:There are no geniuses in snooker for god sake


Heavy words so lightly thrown and bang on the money.

Although I hear Olivier Marteel's skills as a surgeon are borderline genius.


I'm sure he isn't a surgeon? more of a healthcare assistant I thought?

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby Alex0paul » 18 Feb 2021 Read

shanew48 wrote:
vodkadiet1 wrote:
Alex0paul wrote:There are no geniuses in snooker for god sake


Heavy words so lightly thrown and bang on the money.

Although I hear Olivier Marteel's skills as a surgeon are borderline genius.


I'm sure he isn't a surgeon? more of a healthcare assistant I thought?


He wipes baboons shiny behinds for a living

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby shanew48 » 18 Feb 2021 Read

Alex0paul wrote:
shanew48 wrote:
vodkadiet1 wrote:
Alex0paul wrote:There are no geniuses in snooker for god sake


Heavy words so lightly thrown and bang on the money.

Although I hear Olivier Marteel's skills as a surgeon are borderline genius.


I'm sure he isn't a surgeon? more of a healthcare assistant I thought?


He wipes baboons shiny behinds for a living


Yes, I didn't think he was a surgeon, thank you for confirming that he is in fact an healthcare assistant in such a eloquent way.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby vodkadiet1 » 18 Feb 2021 Read

McManusFan wrote:Healthcare assistant? I think he's a nurse. They had a great feature on him at the worlds just gone.


Anyone who is a nurse in Britain is a genius just for having the mindset to tolerate the way the Tories treat them and carrying on.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby shanew48 » 18 Feb 2021 Read

McManusFan wrote:Healthcare assistant? I think he's a nurse. They had a great feature on him at the worlds just gone.


I saw that, it was so effusive that I thought Rob Walker was actually going to fellate him at one point.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby Andre147 » 18 Feb 2021 Read

shanew48 wrote:
McManusFan wrote:Healthcare assistant? I think he's a nurse. They had a great feature on him at the worlds just gone.


I saw that, it was so effusive that I thought Rob Walker was actually going to fellate him at one point.


<laugh>

It was a good feature, and it's always nice a referee gets recognition, and a well deserved one.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby Pink Ball » 19 Feb 2021 Read

vodkadiet1 wrote:
Alex0paul wrote:There are no geniuses in snooker for god sake


Heavy words so lightly thrown and bang on the money.

genius
/ˈdʒiːnɪəs/
noun
1.
exceptional intellectual or creative power or other natural ability.

To be honest, I don't see anything there that would suggest snooker can't have a genius. Any walk of life can. I know some people only think of intellectual prowess, but there's nothing to suggest the term can only apply to that.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby vodkadiet1 » 19 Feb 2021 Read

Pink Ball wrote:And following that definition, I'd have no hesitation in describing Ronnie O'Sullivan as a genius.


Definitions of words only relate to its author.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby Holden Chinaski » 19 Feb 2021 Read

Pink Ball wrote:
vodkadiet1 wrote:
Alex0paul wrote:There are no geniuses in snooker for god sake


Heavy words so lightly thrown and bang on the money.

genius
/ˈdʒiːnɪəs/
noun
1.
exceptional intellectual or creative power or other natural ability.

To be honest, I don't see anything there that would suggest snooker can't have a genius. Any walk of life can. I know some people only think of intellectual prowess, but there's nothing to suggest the term can only apply to that.

Indeed.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby Holden Chinaski » 19 Feb 2021 Read

vodkadiet1 wrote:
Pink Ball wrote:And following that definition, I'd have no hesitation in describing Ronnie O'Sullivan as a genius.


Definitions of words only relate to its author.

Wrong. What the dictionary says is right. What you think it means is wrong.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby vodkadiet1 » 19 Feb 2021 Read

Holden Chinaski wrote:
vodkadiet1 wrote:
Pink Ball wrote:And following that definition, I'd have no hesitation in describing Ronnie O'Sullivan as a genius.


Definitions of words only relate to its author.

Wrong. What the dictionary says is right. What you think it means is wrong.


Semantics. There are many different definitions of many words.

Anyway, regardless of what you think any given word means I have never known a genius to be so relatively unsuccessful in their field in comparison with other geniuses.

The least successful genius ever?

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby Holden Chinaski » 19 Feb 2021 Read

vodkadiet1 wrote:
Holden Chinaski wrote:
vodkadiet1 wrote:
Pink Ball wrote:And following that definition, I'd have no hesitation in describing Ronnie O'Sullivan as a genius.


Definitions of words only relate to its author.

Wrong. What the dictionary says is right. What you think it means is wrong.


Semantics. There are many different definitions of many words.

Anyway, regardless of what you think any given word means I have never known a genius to be so relatively unsuccessful in their field in comparison with other geniuses.

The least successful genius ever?

All the dictionaries I've checked say basically the same thing. Words do not have 'many different definitions'. Otherwise, how could people have a conversation if we all use our own different and incorrect definitions of words?

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby Holden Chinaski » 19 Feb 2021 Read

If the most successful people in your field of work call you a genius, there might be something to it. I've heard people like Hendry, Davis, Reardon, Higgins and MJW call Ronnie a snooker genius. Obviously, they are not saying he's a genius like Einstein. They are talking about his incredible ability as a snooker player.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby Iranu » 19 Feb 2021 Read

vodkadiet1 wrote:Definitions of words only relate to its author.

vodkadiet1 wrote:Semantics. There are many different definitions of many words.

Uh... then why should we listen to yours?

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby vodkadiet1 » 19 Feb 2021 Read

Iranu wrote:
vodkadiet1 wrote:Definitions of words only relate to its author.

vodkadiet1 wrote:Semantics. There are many different definitions of many words.

Uh... then why should we listen to yours?


You shouldn't. There is so much rubbish spoken on the internet, on this and many other forums. You have every right to decide that everything I type is total rubbish, and I have the right to decide that things others write are total rubbish.

It doesn't really matter to me if many people cannot understand the meaning of words and how to use them in the correct context.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby vodkadiet1 » 19 Feb 2021 Read

Holden Chinaski wrote:If the most successful people in your field of work call you a genius, there might be something to it. I've heard people like Hendry, Davis, Reardon, Higgins and MJW call Ronnie a snooker genius. Obviously, they are not saying he's a genius like Einstein. They are talking about his incredible ability as a snooker player.


They are all great snooker players but that doesn't translate in to knowing what the precise meaning of words are.

Genuine geniuses in actual fact are brilliant at many things. Unless I have missed something, O'Sullivan is positively ordinary at just about everything else.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby Iranu » 19 Feb 2021 Read

vodkadiet1 wrote:
Holden Chinaski wrote:If the most successful people in your field of work call you a genius, there might be something to it. I've heard people like Hendry, Davis, Reardon, Higgins and MJW call Ronnie a snooker genius. Obviously, they are not saying he's a genius like Einstein. They are talking about his incredible ability as a snooker player.


They are all great snooker players but that doesn't translate in to knowing what the precise meaning of words are.

Genuine geniuses in actual fact are brilliant at many things. Unless I have missed something, O'Sullivan is positively ordinary at just about everything else.

I think you’re thinking of polymaths.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby Holden Chinaski » 19 Feb 2021 Read

vodkadiet1 wrote:
Holden Chinaski wrote:If the most successful people in your field of work call you a genius, there might be something to it. I've heard people like Hendry, Davis, Reardon, Higgins and MJW call Ronnie a snooker genius. Obviously, they are not saying he's a genius like Einstein. They are talking about his incredible ability as a snooker player.


They are all great snooker players but that doesn't translate in to knowing what the precise meaning of words are.
.

It looks to me like they know exactly what the word means. You don't.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby vodkadiet1 » 19 Feb 2021 Read

Holden Chinaski wrote:
vodkadiet1 wrote:
Holden Chinaski wrote:If the most successful people in your field of work call you a genius, there might be something to it. I've heard people like Hendry, Davis, Reardon, Higgins and MJW call Ronnie a snooker genius. Obviously, they are not saying he's a genius like Einstein. They are talking about his incredible ability as a snooker player.


They are all great snooker players but that doesn't translate in to knowing what the precise meaning of words are.
.

It looks to me like they know exactly what the word means. You don't.



:roll:

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby Holden Chinaski » 19 Feb 2021 Read

vodkadiet1 wrote:
Holden Chinaski wrote:
vodkadiet1 wrote:
Holden Chinaski wrote:If the most successful people in your field of work call you a genius, there might be something to it. I've heard people like Hendry, Davis, Reardon, Higgins and MJW call Ronnie a snooker genius. Obviously, they are not saying he's a genius like Einstein. They are talking about his incredible ability as a snooker player.


They are all great snooker players but that doesn't translate in to knowing what the precise meaning of words are.
.

It looks to me like they know exactly what the word means. You don't.



:roll:

Their definition of the word is exactly the same as what all dictionaries say it is. Your definition is not right. No big deal, we can all learn something new every day.

Re: Are they both "geniuses" ?

Postby vodkadiet1 » 19 Feb 2021 Read

The word 'genius' the way many are referring to it is an intangible anyway. Who decides who is a genius and who isn't? It isn't a fact that anyone is a genius because a certain amount of people say it. Far more would say it isn't the case. Most people saying saying O'Sullivan is a genius aren't very bright, and are biased anyway, either through being a fanboy/girl or living in that snooker bubble where they lose the concept of reality.

If there was an actual genius in any sport they would hardly ever lose. A young Garry Kasparov would be much nearer the mark.
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