cupotee wrote:i think holt is simply a top 30 - 64 type player whatever form or luck besets him , with his experience and the amount of places say 30 - 64 equals 35 places he's good enough to stay on , i don't think any new standard is particularly strong enough to remove him unless there's 20 - 30 new zhou yuelong's or yan bingtao's coming in in the next few years , i never saw hamilton as a great player , and couldn't in a month of sunday's see him give an in form o sullivan as hard a match was it the 2012 world final , perry also simply a better stronger player , and that german master's final he won to all accounts ali carter was rubbish in the final , anyway decent chatting .
Again, I’m not talking about Holt staying on tour. I’m talking about him
staying in the same position in the rankings. So I’m not sure why you’re talking about knocking him off the tour.
Logically, unless Holt has improved his game over the last decade, which he hasn’t, he should be steadily slipping down the rankings as the general standard around him grows. Not necessarily off the tour, but it doesn’t make sense for him to stay (barring the odd blips) in the same ~24-33 ranking bracket for the last 15 years if today’s game is better than it was 15 years ago.
People talk about the strength of today’s tour as if there ARE 20-30 Zhou Yuelongs or Yan Bingtaos propping up the tour outside the top 32. There aren’t, that’s my entire point.
FWIW, Hawkins (2-13) and Hamilton (2-11) have very similar records against Ronnie. And Hamilton was a very heavy scorer, I could easily see him playing a good match against Ronnie but not quite being able to stop him pulling away.
Exactly. Carter, another player whose best days are behind him, also gets to the final and is beaten by Hamilton.