by Badsnookerplayer » 19 Apr 2020 Read
Well he could become anything from the tenth best player to the best player ever. Why limit it to 4th?

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by Cloud Strife » 19 Apr 2020 Read
Agree with Williams.
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by Dan-cat » 19 Apr 2020 Read
Hahaha I think that's called damning with faint praise
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by Dan-cat » 19 Apr 2020 Read
Incredible really that they constructed that whole article from an eight word tweet.
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by Iranu » 19 Apr 2020 Read
Dan-cat wrote:Hahaha I think that's called damning with faint praise
I don’t think so.
He’s saying Trump will definitely end up 4th best player ever. At this stage that’s a huge call based on what Judd’s done so far, and saying “def 4th best” doesn’t rule out being higher than that.
I kind of agree with Williams except I’d put Davis in alongside Higgins. But it looks likely at the moment that Judd will be right in that conversation by the time he retires.
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by Holden Chinaski » 19 Apr 2020 Read
Iranu wrote:Dan-cat wrote:Hahaha I think that's called damning with faint praise
I don’t think so.
He’s saying Trump will definitely end up 4th best player ever. At this stage that’s a huge call based on what Judd’s done so far, and saying “def 4th best” doesn’t rule out being higher than that.
I kind of agree with Williams except I’d put Davis in alongside Higgins. But it looks likely at the moment that Judd will be right in that conversation by the time he retires.
Good post. I agree 100% Although I would also put MJW himself in there as well.
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by Acé » 19 Apr 2020 Read
Sounds about right I don't think he'll be the greatest he's left that too late and is way low on the Triple Crown event list which define your career but if he reaches Williams/Selby/Higgins like numbers then he could end up at 3, just after Ronnie and Hendry
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by The Ace » 19 Apr 2020 Read
I think he could overtake Higgins as the third best, but it will be tough to topple Hendry and Ronnie from the top 2.
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by Iranu » 19 Apr 2020 Read
Acé wrote:Sounds about right I don't think he'll be the greatest he's left that too late and is way low on the Triple Crown event list which define your career but if he reaches Williams/Selby/Higgins like numbers then he could end up at 3, just after Ronnie and Hendry
I don’t think MJW/Selby numbers would be enough to put him in the conversation for top 3, to be honest. Higgins, Davis, Ronnie and Hendry would all be too far ahead.
I think Judd would have to match Higgins’ achievements to be considered for top 3 and I’m not even sure that would be enough (I still put Davis slightly ahead of Higgins).
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by Acé » 19 Apr 2020 Read
I forgot about Davis, yeah Higgins, Davis, Ronnie and Hendry are the definite top 4 can't argue with that
tbh I'd be happy with top 5 but he does have potential to beat Higgins and get #4
of course he'll need to win on par level of TC events, now it's just about racking a few upI do agree with what Ronnie said about battle scars as Judd gets older and a younger dude starts stepping on Judd's heels so better use this opportunity while on a high
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by Acé » 19 Apr 2020 Read
and I'm gonna be arguing with a younger dude about how Judd was awesome
so this is what it feels like LOL
but I'm on a high so :p
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by Iranu » 19 Apr 2020 Read
Acé wrote:I forgot about Davis, yeah Higgins, Davis, Ronnie and Hendry are the definite top 4 can't argue with that
tbh I'd be happy with top 5 but he does have potential to beat Higgins and get #4
of course he'll need to win on par level of TC events, now it's just about racking a few upI do agree with what Ronnie said about battle scars as Judd gets older and a younger dude starts stepping on Judd's heels so better use this opportunity while on a high
Higgins is lagging well behind the other three in TCs, to be fair. He only has one more than Selby and two more than MJW.
Judd will smash MJW’s overall rankers unless something drastic happens, so yeah it depends how well he does with TCs, and whatever other tournaments become majors over the next decade. If they stick around you can see tournaments like the Tour Championship being considered on that level regardless of what the BBC think.
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by Holden Chinaski » 19 Apr 2020 Read
I know it's hard to compare different era's but I do think it's a bit unrespectful to leave out Ray Reardon in these discussions. I think if Reardon would be a young man now he would be a top player as well. Or if someone like Trump would have been young in Reardon's days I don't think he would be winning more titles than Reardon. I think Reardon was a winner and a tough competitor just like Hendry, Davis, Ronnie, Higgins...
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by Iranu » 19 Apr 2020 Read
Holden Chinaski wrote:I know it's hard to compare different era's but I do think it's a bit unrespectful to leave out Ray Reardon in these discussions.
Yeah you might be right.
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by SnookerEd25 » 19 Apr 2020 Read
Holden Chinaski wrote:I know it's hard to compare different era's but I do think it's a bit unrespectful to leave out Ray Reardon in these discussions. I think if Reardon would be a young man now he would be a top player as well. Or if someone like Trump would have been young in Reardon's days I don't think he would be winning more titles than Reardon. I think Reardon was a winner and a tough competitor just like Hendry, Davis, Ronnie, Higgins...
Very good point. Some real hints of just how good Reardon was in that 82 final shown earlier, and he was turning 50 later that year. We can’t really know how good he was in his prime because the footage just doesn’t exist, but probably on a par with peak John Higgins at least.
I’m just hlad I got to see the tail-end of his career in my formative watching years.
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by Holden Chinaski » 19 Apr 2020 Read
SnookerEd25 wrote:Holden Chinaski wrote:I know it's hard to compare different era's but I do think it's a bit unrespectful to leave out Ray Reardon in these discussions. I think if Reardon would be a young man now he would be a top player as well. Or if someone like Trump would have been young in Reardon's days I don't think he would be winning more titles than Reardon. I think Reardon was a winner and a tough competitor just like Hendry, Davis, Ronnie, Higgins...
Very good point. Some real hints of just how good Reardon was in that 82 final shown earlier, and he was turning 50 later that year. We can’t really know how good he was in his prime because the footage just doesn’t exist, but probably on a par with peak John Higgins at least.
I’m just hlad I got to see the tail-end of his career in my formative watching years.
Reardon also proved his tactical brain was still very much a strong asset to have in the modern era when he helped Ronnie in 2004.
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by SnookerEd25 » 19 Apr 2020 Read
Holden Chinaski wrote:SnookerEd25 wrote:Holden Chinaski wrote:I know it's hard to compare different era's but I do think it's a bit unrespectful to leave out Ray Reardon in these discussions. I think if Reardon would be a young man now he would be a top player as well. Or if someone like Trump would have been young in Reardon's days I don't think he would be winning more titles than Reardon. I think Reardon was a winner and a tough competitor just like Hendry, Davis, Ronnie, Higgins...
Very good point. Some real hints of just how good Reardon was in that 82 final shown earlier, and he was turning 50 later that year. We can’t really know how good he was in his prime because the footage just doesn’t exist, but probably on a par with peak John Higgins at least.
I’m just hlad I got to see the tail-end of his career in my formative watching years.
Reardon also proved his tactical brain was still very much a strong asset to have in the modern era when he helped Ronnie in 2004.
Another good point HC, he really helped RO’S hold it together through the 17 days too. I loved it when Ronnie put those fake fangs in after!
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by Holden Chinaski » 19 Apr 2020 Read
SnookerEd25 wrote:
Another good point HC, he really helped RO’S hold it together through the 17 days too. I loved it when Ronnie put those fake fangs in after!
That was brilliant. 2004 was my favourite championship, Ronnie was so good to watch. Smart move from Ronnie's dad to contact Reardon.
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by TheRocket » 19 Apr 2020 Read
Reardons impact on Ronnie has always been quite underrated in the media. They often talk about Peters and rightfully so but it was Reardon who transformed him from a raw scorer and potter into a complete player.
I think someone like Lisowski could gain a lot of success by working with Reardon.
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by SnookerFan » 19 Apr 2020 Read
Dan-cat wrote:Incredible really that they constructed that whole article from an eight word tweet.
That's all journalism seems to be these days.
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