New concerns over editing of Higgins video

case_master wrote:I should also add that mooney said ‘they agreed to everything’ this was pretty quickly after the story broke, how many times did he get to see the video? Did he realize at that point how badly it had been edited.

wildJONESEYE wrote:

case_master wrote:I should also add that mooney said ‘they agreed to everything’ this was pretty quickly after the story broke, how many times did he get to see the video? Did he realize at that point how badly it had been edited.

Good point

Monique wrote:

wildJONESEYE wrote:

case_master wrote:I should also add that mooney said ‘they agreed to everything’ this was pretty quickly after the story broke, how many times did he get to see the video? Did he realize at that point how badly it had been edited.

Good point

He surely has by now and discussed it with his lawyers. I'd even safely say he surely has as soon as he had the opportunity. Everyone would. Basic point is he didn't deny, not even once, he didn't suggest that what the video showed wasn't true. He just said they did it to get out of there which implicitely is admitting they did agree to the match fixing. There is no way out of that.
The NOTW paper edition on the Sunday May 3 devoted several pages to it with the full transcript of the video and more details. I can't believe Mooney or Higgins didn't read it. They never denied.

source the ferret on TSF wrote:The WPBSA Disciplinary Committee has resolved to refer an investigation arising from the News of the World newspaper's report of May 2, 2010, which contained allegations against John Higgins and Pat Mooney, to a hearing board convened under the auspices of Sport Resolutions UK.

David Douglas, head of the WPBSA's disciplinary committee, said: "Sport Resolutions deals with cases in various sports and is named in WPBSA disciplinary rules. It is completely independent of the WPBSA and we have no doubt that it will bring a fair conclusion to this matter."
There will be no further comment at this stage.

Monique wrote:It's on WPBSA also.

Higgins report heads for tribunal
By Phil Goodlad

Findings of the investigation into match-fixing allegations made against John Higgins will be handed to an independent tribunal next week.
The three-time world snooker champion and manager Pat Mooney have denied agreeing to throw frames for £261,000.
And snooker chief Barry Hearn insists that lifetime bans for breaking any of the sport's rules are not the answer.
"I do not believe in them, but I do believe in lengthy bans," Hearn told BBC Scotland.
Hearn, chairman of the World Professional Billiard and Snooker Association, did not wish to prejudge the findings of the investigation.
However, he stated: "It's our duty as the custodians of the sport to firstly educate, secondly dissuade and thirdly to punish should the rules be broken."
The claims against 35-year-old former world champion Higgins and Mooney, who quit the WPBSA board as a result of the allegations, were published by a Sunday newspaper in May.
If found guilty, the pair face lengthy bans from the sport.
Sport Resolutions UK, an independent dispute resolution service, will be handed the findings of an investigation carried out by the WPBSA into the allegations.
Higgins and Mooney will then have 28 days to make representations before a hearing takes place.
The allegations that have rocked snooker surfaced on the morning of the World Championship final.
The News of the World claimed had said that it had filmed Higgins and manager Mooney agreeing with businessmen in Ukraine to lose frames in exchange for money.
The pair, suspended by World Snooker pending the outcome of their investigation, denied the allegations, with Higgins saying he was "100%" innocent and would "vigorously defend" himself.
The WPBSA investigation is being carried out by its head of discipline David Douglas.
The former Metropolitan Police detective chief superintendent will then pass his findings on to Sport Resolutions UK.
Douglas said: "Sport Resolutions deals with cases in various sports and is named in WPBSA disciplinary rules.
"It is completely independent of the WPBSA and we have no doubt that it will bring a fair conclusion to this matter."

Monique wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/snooker/8763343.stm

Higgins report heads for tribunal
By Phil Goodlad

Findings of the investigation into match-fixing allegations made against John Higgins will be handed to an independent tribunal next week.
The three-time world snooker champion and manager Pat Mooney have denied agreeing to throw frames for £261,000.
And snooker chief Barry Hearn insists that lifetime bans for breaking any of the sport's rules are not the answer.
"I do not believe in them, but I do believe in lengthy bans," Hearn told BBC Scotland.
Hearn, chairman of the World Professional Billiard and Snooker Association, did not wish to prejudge the findings of the investigation.
However, he stated: "It's our duty as the custodians of the sport to firstly educate, secondly dissuade and thirdly to punish should the rules be broken."
The claims against 35-year-old former world champion Higgins and Mooney, who quit the WPBSA board as a result of the allegations, were published by a Sunday newspaper in May.
If found guilty, the pair face lengthy bans from the sport.
Sport Resolutions UK, an independent dispute resolution service, will be handed the findings of an investigation carried out by the WPBSA into the allegations.
Higgins and Mooney will then have 28 days to make representations before a hearing takes place.
The allegations that have rocked snooker surfaced on the morning of the World Championship final.
The News of the World claimed had said that it had filmed Higgins and manager Mooney agreeing with businessmen in Ukraine to lose frames in exchange for money.
The pair, suspended by World Snooker pending the outcome of their investigation, denied the allegations, with Higgins saying he was "100%" innocent and would "vigorously defend" himself.
The WPBSA investigation is being carried out by its head of discipline David Douglas.
The former Metropolitan Police detective chief superintendent will then pass his findings on to Sport Resolutions UK.
Douglas said: "Sport Resolutions deals with cases in various sports and is named in WPBSA disciplinary rules.
"It is completely independent of the WPBSA and we have no doubt that it will bring a fair conclusion to this matter."

So 28 days from sometime next week on leads us to end July for the hearing.

Sonny wrote:How long ago was the Maguire v Burnett match? Has it been resolved?

It was in the UK in December 2008 that the match took place. A verdict on Higgins by the end of July would come under the heading "Swift" in my book

thetubberlad wrote:Barry Hearn's promise of a swift conclusion was actually a little bit shortsighted on his part. Higgins had a certain amount of time to get their defence in order, so it would have taken a lot more time than Hearn stated.

Witz78 wrote:I still think regardless of this some sort of punishment will befall Higgins. His failure to inform the authorities of what happened will still prove to be his downfall.

wildJONESEYE wrote:NO MATE

on the back of this news of the world inability to back up their story with facts unless there is a guarantee of not being sued the case is on the verge of collapsing the date is set for early September as it is now it will take all of 5 minutes open and shut.

wildJONESEYE wrote:john

he had no alternative but to suspend him.

if a policeman is accused of miss conduct hes suspended pending a inquiery.

when a sportsman is accused of fiddeling with betting he has to be suspended pending a inquiery.

John on tape was the difference between Burnett and him.