by SnookerFan » 13 Oct 2023 Read
SnookerFan wrote:When doesn't he?
Let me guess, before reading it. He's against them doing it?
Well, hush my mouth.
He's actually agreeing with what I said. That there's two sides to it.
Apologies Shaun.
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by McManusFan » 13 Oct 2023 Read
SnookerFan wrote:The bigger picture with this is that despite huge improvements since the days when there were only six events in snooker, (which yes is because of Hearn), there still isn't the money in snooker. The ones here like John Higgins and Mark Selby are alright, but ones slightly down the pecking order are sometomes near bankrupt. We're talking top 32 players here, not people ranked like 100 in the world. I get that players have broken contract, but instead of Hearn using it as another chance to show off, maybe look at the problems that are causing players to defer to big money tournaments as well.
It's not 100% clear if that's true or not. I find it interesting contrasting Barry Hearn's comments with the official WST statement, which is much more guarded in its language.
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by Dan-cat » 13 Oct 2023 Read
Being reported on Twitter that it's been postponed to December, couple of the players involved got well wobbly understandably!
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by SnookerFan » 13 Oct 2023 Read
McManusFan wrote:It's not 100% clear if that's true or not. I find it interesting contrasting Barry Hearn's comments with the official WST statement, which is much more guarded in its language.
I thought that was the whole point?
If it's not in their contract, then what's the problem? WST can't complain just because they don't like it.
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by McManusFan » 13 Oct 2023 Read
SnookerFan wrote:McManusFan wrote:It's not 100% clear if that's true or not. I find it interesting contrasting Barry Hearn's comments with the official WST statement, which is much more guarded in its language.
I thought that was the whole point?
If it's not in their contract, then what's the problem. WST can't complain just because they don't like it.
I think there is some ambiguity. I don't think it explicitly states 'you can't pay in unsanctioned events', but something more loose about damaging WST events.
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by SnookerFan » 13 Oct 2023 Read
McManusFan wrote:SnookerFan wrote:McManusFan wrote:It's not 100% clear if that's true or not. I find it interesting contrasting Barry Hearn's comments with the official WST statement, which is much more guarded in its language.
I thought that was the whole point?
If it's not in their contract, then what's the problem. WST can't complain just because they don't like it.
I think there is some ambiguity. I don't think it explicitly states 'you can't pay in unsanctioned events', but something more loose about damaging WST events.
If that's true, it's all stupid, Hearn is talking rubbish, and they haven't done anything wrong.
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by McManusFan » 13 Oct 2023 Read
I just think from what exactly has been said it seems like there is some interpreting to be done on the contract. It could be that WST's view is the most reasonable interpretation.
The news that the exhibition has been moved is a good one, and has allowed the worst to be swerved.
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by SnookerFan » 13 Oct 2023 Read
McManusFan wrote:I just think from what exactly has been said it seems like there is some interpreting to be done on the contract. It could be that WST's view is the most reasonable interpretation.
The news that the exhibition has been moved is a good one, and has allowed the worst to be swerved.
Do we know exactly when it's been moved to?
Imagine it clashes with the UK Championship final, or the Scottish Open.
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by SnookerEd25 » 13 Oct 2023 Read
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by D4P » 13 Oct 2023 Read
D4P wrote:I'm not going to defend WST, but I will say that it's kind of lame for the Macau people to schedule their event in conflict with a WST event, knowing that any players who choose to play in Macau will be subject to WST backlash...
Like I said, all that needed to happen was to change the dates of the Macau exhibition so that they didn't conflict with a WST event. Problem solved.
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by HappyCamper » 13 Oct 2023 Read
D4P wrote:D4P wrote:I'm not going to defend WST, but I will say that it's kind of lame for the Macau people to schedule their event in conflict with a WST event, knowing that any players who choose to play in Macau will be subject to WST backlash...
Like I said, all that needed to happen was to change the dates of the Macau exhibition so that they didn't conflict with a WST event. Problem solved.
though the five are now missing out on a chance to earn at the ni open.
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by TheRocket » 13 Oct 2023 Read
https://wst.tv/wst-statement-update/"WST can confirm that the Macau event previously scheduled for 27-29 October will now take place on the 22-24 December with players having received WST permission to enter".
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by Wildey » 13 Oct 2023 Read
HappyCamper wrote:D4P wrote:D4P wrote:I'm not going to defend WST, but I will say that it's kind of lame for the Macau people to schedule their event in conflict with a WST event, knowing that any players who choose to play in Macau will be subject to WST backlash...
Like I said, all that needed to happen was to change the dates of the Macau exhibition so that they didn't conflict with a WST event. Problem solved.
though the five are now missing out on a chance to earn at the ni open.
The players that did not Enter the NI Open couldn't care less They were not going to enter anyway nothing to do with the Money it was Just preparing for the International Championship nothing else.
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by SnookerFan » 13 Oct 2023 Read
TheRocket wrote:https://wst.tv/wst-statement-update/
"WST can confirm that the Macau event previously scheduled for 27-29 October will now take place on the 22-24 December with players having received WST permission to enter".
Much ado about nothing then.
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by SnookerFan » 03 Nov 2023 Read
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by SnookerFan » 12 Dec 2023 Read
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by Prop » 12 Dec 2023 Read
SnookerFan wrote:https://metro.co.uk/2023/12/12/mark-selby-says-finnish-exhibition-blew-mind-macau-drama-19963923/
Arrgh! I just started a thread on this
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by SnookerFan » 12 Dec 2023 Read
Prop wrote:SnookerFan wrote:https://metro.co.uk/2023/12/12/mark-selby-says-finnish-exhibition-blew-mind-macau-drama-19963923/
Arrgh! I just started a thread on this
My bad.
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by Prop » 12 Dec 2023 Read
SnookerFan wrote:Prop wrote:SnookerFan wrote:https://metro.co.uk/2023/12/12/mark-selby-says-finnish-exhibition-blew-mind-macau-drama-19963923/
Arrgh! I just started a thread on this
My bad.
My bad this time, I didn’t see that you’d already posted here.
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by SnookerEd25 » 12 Dec 2023 Read
Look - whose bad is it? Come now
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by SnookerFan » 12 Dec 2023 Read
SnookerEd25 wrote:Look - whose bad is it? Come now
Yours.
Temp ban. Sorry mate.
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by SnookerEd25 » 12 Dec 2023 Read
SnookerFan wrote:SnookerEd25 wrote:Look - whose bad is it? Come now
Yours.
Temp ban. Sorry mate.
Hoist by mine own petard
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by SnookerFan » 12 Dec 2023 Read
SnookerEd25 wrote:SnookerFan wrote:SnookerEd25 wrote:Look - whose bad is it? Come now
Yours.
Temp ban. Sorry mate.
Hoist by mine own petard
This guy?
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by SnookerEd25 » 12 Dec 2023 Read
No. Not him, no.
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