Re: The World Number 1 Speaks Out
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Prop wrote:You’re dodging my question. I’ll reiterate.
How does a young player find themselves in the position where they believe they are worthy of the cost of entering this tour?
Sickpotter wrote:They've done studies, average attention span has dropped significantly but more with the advent of smart phones than the internet.
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cupotee wrote:Prop wrote:You’re dodging my question. I’ll reiterate.
How does a young player find themselves in the position where they believe they are worthy of the cost of entering this tour?
i wasn't dodging anything , they play in high street clubs or whats left of them still around and garner whatever interest and experience they can before making that decision , i don't think its realistic to get anything outside of wst to replicate pro conditions except the european and billiards snooker association and to enter that you'd need plenty of money too , i have no problem with keeping these tuppence hapeny high street clubs open for aspiring players to garner their hopes and aspirations and upon that they can take the plunge financially and go for it , they'd only make a better decision about whether they want to stay in this venture while on the tour and not outside of it because there's insufficient facilities to replicate wst conditions , i know that sounds precarious but i don't see any other way around it as i said there's insufficient facilities outside of the wst .
cupotee wrote:Prop wrote:You’re dodging my question. I’ll reiterate.
How does a young player find themselves in the position where they believe they are worthy of the cost of entering this tour?
i wasn't dodging anything , they play in high street clubs or whats left of them still around and garner whatever interest and experience they can before making that decision , i don't think its realistic to get anything outside of wst to replicate pro conditions except the european and billiards snooker association and to enter that you'd need plenty of money too , i have no problem with keeping these tuppence hapeny high street clubs open for aspiring players to garner their hopes and aspirations and upon that they can take the plunge financially and go for it , they'd only make a better decision about whether they want to stay in this venture while on the tour and not outside of it because there's insufficient facilities to replicate wst conditions , i know that sounds precarious but i don't see any other way around it as i said there's insufficient facilities outside of the wst .
Iranu wrote:cupotee wrote:Prop wrote:You’re dodging my question. I’ll reiterate.
How does a young player find themselves in the position where they believe they are worthy of the cost of entering this tour?
i wasn't dodging anything , they play in high street clubs or whats left of them still around and garner whatever interest and experience they can before making that decision , i don't think its realistic to get anything outside of wst to replicate pro conditions except the european and billiards snooker association and to enter that you'd need plenty of money too , i have no problem with keeping these tuppence hapeny high street clubs open for aspiring players to garner their hopes and aspirations and upon that they can take the plunge financially and go for it , they'd only make a better decision about whether they want to stay in this venture while on the tour and not outside of it because there's insufficient facilities to replicate wst conditions , i know that sounds precarious but i don't see any other way around it as i said there's insufficient facilities outside of the wst .
Won’t those youngsters be left with the same problem? Getting beaten by pros who already have pro conditions experience? I don’t see how it solves anything. Particularly if they turn pro sooner than they otherwise would - won’t they just get disillusioned sooner?
mantorok wrote:I tell you what else would also help, a complete and utter shake-up of the commentary, and I don't mean getting rid of them and putting new people in, although there are some I would drop in a heartbeat, but generally the commentary is still very old school, where's the enthusiasm, the excitement? Why do some commentators feel the need to create that funeral-home feel?
And no I don't have any suggestions, some of the commentators comment really well on every stage of a match, and frame, take Fouldsy, when he speaks it's for reason and he is really engaging, they need more commentary like that, and they shouldn't go silent for too long, and if there's not much to say then talk about something interesting, maybe a bit more trivia about the players or something juicy, and yeah, they need to go a little over the top with the drama. Like I say there are a handful that do this already, the rest should be shot.
This is all theatrical and shallow I know, but unfortunately it works, viewers want to feel something important and exciting is happening, even if it is just a white ball hitting a another ball into the pocket.
Dan-cat wrote:Jester82 wrote:Young folks do not have the attention span for Snooker. With Darts you can drink yourself to death and behave obnoxiously, while Snooker is more gentle and worldly. To some it might seem almost dull.
You don't see fighting like you do in the football stadium, flip a birdie and what not. And there is no real controversy in Snooker beyond sb. wearing his bow tie incorrectly. It does not make any headlines. And the players who participate aren't any interesting characters when you walk around looking like a penguin.
It's true - smart phones / the internet have killed attention spans.
gallantrabbit wrote:I think Trump is suggesting a bit of balance. Probably a sly dig at the Jimmy Hendry circus too. Sure he's having a go at the archaic BBC set up too. Certainly time to shift out deadwood there, (ie DT).
As for dress code, yes the waistcoat thing does seem a bit archaic too and players should learn to self promote better. But then at the end of the day the young players have also got to bring it to get seen. No good a dashing Ollie Lines cracking in 5 breaks over 70 in the first round of the qualies only to get beat by the almost retired Dominic Dale next match up...
The_Abbott wrote:gallantrabbit wrote:I think Trump is suggesting a bit of balance. Probably a sly dig at the Jimmy Hendry circus too. Sure he's having a go at the archaic BBC set up too. Certainly time to shift out deadwood there, (ie DT).
As for dress code, yes the waistcoat thing does seem a bit archaic too and players should learn to self promote better. But then at the end of the day the young players have also got to bring it to get seen. No good a dashing Ollie Lines cracking in 5 breaks over 70 in the first round of the qualies only to get beat by the almost retired Dominic Dale next match up...
Trump just wants the attention. He's probably annoyed that a 99 year old man is dominating the news and schedules right now.
Running side wrote:Trump has never said anything noteworthy in his career, he may be world no1 but as little personality, turns up play usually wins takes money and goes home. Does he put anything back into the game, doubt it.
Johnny Bravo wrote:Told you guys a long time ago polo shirts are the way.
Now Judd backs me up.
And he also said (indirectly) that the BBC should get rid of old darts like Taylor.
SnookerEd25 wrote:Running side wrote:Trump has never said anything noteworthy in his career, he may be world no1 but as little personality, turns up play usually wins takes money and goes home. Does he put anything back into the game, doubt it.
That I have to agree with. he is an exceptional player, extremely watchable in himself but an ambassador for the sport?
Sadly no. Those who have gone before him (Davis, Hendry, O’Sullivan, even Williams, J. Higgins, Selby) as dominant players for a time have had a measure of intelligence and charisma befitting their status.
Judd has little charisma and even less intelligence I’m afraid, and should concentrate solely on playing and keeping his mouth shut. But as the current dominant player, the television and media outlets look to him for quotes and sound bites and I get the impression he is not very comfortable with it hence continually putting his foot in his mouth.
That’s my opinion, anyway.
SnookerFan wrote:Good job that we have Ronnie giving intelligent opinion like; "Power Snooker is the future of the sport" and "I'm going to create a breakaway tour with Higgins and the banned Chinese payers".
SnookerFan wrote:Good job that we have Ronnie giving intelligent opinion like; "Power Snooker is the future of the sport" and "I'm going to create a breakaway tour with Higgins and the banned Chinese payers".
Holden Chinaski wrote:SnookerFan wrote:Good job that we have Ronnie giving intelligent opinion like; "Power Snooker is the future of the sport" and "I'm going to create a breakaway tour with Higgins and the banned Chinese payers".
Like him or not, but you have to admit Ronnie has been great for the popularity of the game. He's the sport's biggest attraction and has been for some time. Without Ronnie, the game would have been in dire straits.
Holden Chinaski wrote:SnookerFan wrote:Good job that we have Ronnie giving intelligent opinion like; "Power Snooker is the future of the sport" and "I'm going to create a breakaway tour with Higgins and the banned Chinese payers".
Like him or not, but you have to admit Ronnie has been great for the popularity of the game. He's the sport's biggest attraction and has been for some time. Without Ronnie, the game would have been in dire straits.
SnookerFan wrote:I never quite understand why people like Ronnie and not Judd. They both play an attacking style and talk cobblers. They seem quite similar in that respect.
SnookerFan wrote:I never quite understand why people like Ronnie and not Judd. They both play an attacking style and talk cobblers. They seem quite similar in that respect.
Running side wrote:In a way that different opinions should not be sniffed at.
SnookerFan wrote:Can't we all just agree that they both act like fannies?
SnookerFan wrote:Can't we all just agree that they both act like fannies?