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Power Snooker: Good or bad ?

Poll ended at 06 Nov 2010

Great success
8
50%
Terrible failure
6
38%
Didn't see it/Don't care
2
13%
 
Total votes : 16

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby GJ

Bourne wrote:Nothing wrong with people criticising it on the first go either, because it was the first and errors were always gona be made. But it's a learning process. <ok>



:wild2: <laugh>

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Witz78

wildJONESEYE wrote:
Witz78 wrote:god sake, some folk need to take a chill pill and calm down. Talk about getting your knickers in a twist.

So yous hate Power Snooker, OK we heard you the first (second, third, fourth.........) time but why get so worked up over it.

It will never replace snooker but its a bit of fun on the side and may attract new fans to the sport so whats the harm?

it will never be played again either <ok>

and BTW it will NEVER atract new fans.

new fans will tune in get a headache with all the stupid idiotic rules and tune off....it did nothing for snooker


It WILL be played again, YOU just hope it isnt played again rofl

I was at a pool competition today and it was the talk of the place among quite a few guys who dont normally watch snooker but the general consensus was that it was fun and the format was good.

The rules arent complicated at all :huh:

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Tubberlad

Wild:

This thing has got a lot of people talking, and some people seem to genuinely love it...

It will be played again, it has it's place.

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby GJ

thetubberlad wrote:Wild:

This thing has got a lot of people talking, and some people seem to genuinely love it...

It will be played again, it has it's place.



:zzz: :farmer:

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Tubberlad

GJ, I disliked it too, and I won't be pushed about watching it again <ok>

I'll bump this:

thetubberlad wrote:Sonny: that is an excellent article, fair play. A lot of time and effort put in by the looks.

Computer game snooker? Yeah, that's a very accurate observation. There were a few little touches I did like:

* The barstool style seats were certainly a clever little idea, and suited this perfectly

* Any event which encourages a players character to shine can only be praised. This event did that. It was nice to see more a more extroverted side to the likes of Ali Carter & in particular Ding Junhui. How GREAT was it to see him visibly enjoying himself on a snooker table? The guy is one of the best players I've seen, and I'd like to see him having a ball as he fulfills his undoubted ability.

* The Powergirls... well, I was always going to mention this. In truth, if they had gone out wearing fuckall, it would have looked out of place and disjointed more than a turn-on, this is snooker and not wrestling. They were still hot and that's all that mattered.

* Coverage: we have snooker on ITV, and this has got a LOT of people talking, which is great. Some hate it, some love it.

*The lighting for when the powerball was potted. Again, a VERY clever little idea. Maybe this could be incorporated into entering the powerzone rather than shouting it out every 50 seconds.

Overall, I've made no secret of my dislike for this. I went making plans with the girlfriend for the night during the Carter-Selby game, when I had no intention of going out prior to that. BUT, this has gone down well with a lot of people, and love it or hate it, I think it's got a future.

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Rocket_ron

rules are dead easy. points the same as snooker only doubled our quadrpled in power play/power Zone thats not hard to add up.
whats else is complicated? shot clock? doubt it

its pretty much like snooker but faster shorter playing for points instead of frames....dead easy

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby GJ

Ultimate_snooker wrote:rules are dead easy. points the same as snooker only doubled our quadrpled in power play/power Zone thats not hard to add up.
whats else is complicated? shot clock? doubt it

its pretty much like snooker but faster shorter playing for points instead of frames....dead easy



dead :zzz:

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Tubberlad

Ultimate_snooker wrote:rules are dead easy. points the same as snooker only doubled our quadrpled in power play/power Zone thats not hard to add up.
whats else is complicated? shot clock? doubt it

its pretty much like snooker but faster shorter playing for points instead of frames....dead easy

Yeah, for all my gripes, the rules aren't actually THAT complicated, which I think was important.

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Wildey

Sonny wrote:http://www.snookerisland.com/blog/power-snooker-computer-game-snooker/

to be honest that blog not worth a read for me the whole concept was is and always will be rubbish.

i cant be fussed reading through any more to do with the whole bullocks thing.

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Wildey

Bourne wrote:And yet you still post on this topic to this moment

<laugh>

someone got to write sense on a otherwise useles rubbish of a thread <ok>

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby GJ

wildJONESEYE wrote:
Bourne wrote:And yet you still post on this topic to this moment

<laugh>

someone got to write sense on a otherwise useles rubbish of a thread <ok>



porno :afro:

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Rocket_ron

wildJONESEYE wrote:
Bourne wrote:And yet you still post on this topic to this moment

<laugh>

someone got to write sense on a otherwise useles rubbish of a thread <ok>

so your writing negative to balance or even over power the positives?

well hope you all the best

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Tubberlad

Wild, it's one of the best articles I've read and that response is a bit ignorant to be honest <ok>

I don't see why people feel the need to criticise this incessantly and anyone who likes it. I you don't like it, don't watch it. If you don't have anything good to say, you're as well off to buck off. I thought it was a load of bullocks personally, but I can see its plus points and that some people like it. Each to their own.

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Casey

Ultimate_snooker wrote:rules are dead easy. points the same as snooker only doubled our quadrpled in power play/power Zone that's not hard to add up.
whats else is complicated? shot clock? doubt it

its pretty much like snooker but faster shorter playing for points instead of frames....dead easy


Just because its played on a snooker table does not make it snooker, billiards is played on the same table and its not snooker after all.

I have a few questions over the table, at one stage I saw the pink freely moving after it had been re-spotted, was the table totally level or was it due to vibration from the floor? Also the reaction of the balls after they had jawed was very strange, who was the table manufacture?

its not my place to tell other people whether they enjoyed it or not. Power snooker is good entertainment for some, but remember its entertainment not sport.

We have the likes of Carter and Ronnie saying its the future <doh>

We all know Ronnie is more interested in a quick buck rather than the game but its disappointing to hear from other players.

They will end up wanting to play in these quick events rather than main tour events, especially when power snooker becomes established with more money on offer.

Their choice you might say? Well they might earn good money but what sort of reputation will they get by winning a bash around totally devoid of 95% the tactical nous of snooker. We will soon see who are the greedy players and who are the ones that are interested in the SPORT.

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Roland

Bourneo - you subscribe to the Times website don't you? Can you copy and paste the Matthew Syed article?

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Sickpotter

Based on the blog (I have yet to see the game, not sure that I care to), the description of the crowd leads me to believe that the whole event was little more than a snake hiss up for those without a darts or football match to watch rather than anyone actually interested in the game.

Will it attract people to real snooker? I seriously doubt it but we'll see.

Any effort to improve the state of the game is worth a shot but sacrificing the game we love to "save" it seems a little desperate.

After they've attracted new fans to a sport and atmosphere that has no resemblance to the game and environment of serious snooker what do you do? :huh2:

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Monique

Case:
We all know Ronnie is more interested in a quick buck rather than the game but its disappointing to hear from other players


No we don't know that and it's not true. Ronnie is certainly more interested in the future of the game than others who do near to nothing to promote it or to help the young players and support grassroot snooker, all things ROS does extensively in Essex. ROS might be wrong in his perception of what the game needs but he certainly loves it and wants to give it something back.

@sickpotter: yes the crowd was too raucous and that has to be addressed. Other than that the vast majority of those who watched it or participated found it interesting and fun. Joe Johnston commenting on Eurosport was absolutely enthusiastic. The two referees, Michaela and Patricia fully enjoyed it - bar the excesses of the crowd. It is not snooker. It's something different. But it is still a cue sport of the "snooker family". It it can bring more television time, a different audience it can only be beneficial. As for the environment of "serious" snooker ... well what was it 40-30 years ago? How is it in clubs? Don't tell me you don't have people around , drinking, shouting, bikering ... the fruit machines, the bar, the video games ...

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby GJ

Monique wrote:Case:
We all know Ronnie is more interested in a quick buck rather than the game but its disappointing to hear from other players


No we don't know that and it's not true. Ronnie is certainly more interested in the future of the game than others who do near to nothing to promote it or to help the young players and support grassroot snooker, all things ROS does extensively in Essex. ROS might be wrong in his perception of what the game needs but he certainly loves it and wants to give it something back.

@sickpotter: yes the crowd was too raucous and that has to be addressed. Other than that the vast majority of those who watched it or participated found it interesting and fun. Joe Johnston commenting on Eurosport was absolutely enthusiastic. The two referees, Michaela and Patricia fully enjoyed it - bar the excesses of the crowd. It is not snooker. It's something different. But it is still a cue sport of the "snooker family". It it can bring more television time, a different audience it can only be beneficial. As for the environment of "serious" snooker ... well what was it 40-30 years ago? How is it in clubs? Don't tell me you don't have people around , drinking, shouting, bikering ... the fruit machines, the bar, the video games ...



when you see ronnie tell him its good to see he iswell i assumed there was a serious issue after he missed eptc on friday

<ok>

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Monique

GJ it's very clear to me that ROS isn't committed to these events. But at least when he did turn up he tried properly, making a quarters and a final ... not like some others. OK? No there probably was no other reason than the realisation that the schedule was just "crazy". And there is no excuse for not calling the organisers, that would have been basic courtesy.
But that attack has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
Your favourite, Neil Robertson is one of the players who indeed do a lot to promote the game.
So are others: John Higgins (before his ban), Ronnie, Shaun Murphy, Mark Selby are probably, with Neil, the ones in the top 16 who do the most. Mark Williams and Ryan Day certainly do their share also. Other players who are less visible do a lot as well at grassroot level. Nigel Bond and Ian McCulloch are two I know of.

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Wildey

monique

there's ansalutly no excuse known to man to justify Ronnie this weekend.

they did not know at the academy that he wasn't going to go that is inexcusable as a human being never mind a snooker player.

the least anyone can expect is a message of some kind the fact he turned out for this rubbish says lasyness in picking up the fone on his part.

taking part in PTC Events not the issue but letting them know is out of respect.

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Sickpotter

"How is it in clubs? Don't tell me you don't have people around , drinking, shouting, bikering ... the fruit machines, the bar, the video games ..."

In a night club sure but not in a proper snooker club.

At my local club during the day it's quiet and people play the game seriously. At night certainly there will be a certain amount of people who're just out having a few drinks and playing recreationally but that's fine.

If there's an actual competition on people are told to be respectful of the players and to keep the noise down. If they don't comply they're asked to leave.

If you make the atmosphere into a party atmosphere your snooker club has become a night club.

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Monique

wildJONESEYE wrote:monique

there's ansalutly no excuse known to man to justify Ronnie this weekend.

they did not know at the academy that he wasn't going to go that is inexcusable as a human being never mind a snooker player.

the least anyone can expect is a message of some kind the fact he turned out for this poo says lasyness in picking up the fone on his part.

taking part in PTC Events not the issue but letting them know is out of respect.

Where did I say anything to excuse him Wild? I didn't. On the contrary, I did clearly say there is no excuse.
I'm fed up with people jumping at me without reading what I write. Seriously.

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby GJ

have to agree with monique she hasnt made excuses for ronnie on this occassion

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Wildey

the so called hard schedule was the same for ding he turned up ok played crap and lost but its all down to firstly respect and secondary help promoting the sport and sorry but i see absalutly no effort what so ever from him in doing that. however in promoting this piece of rubbish he couldn't shut his face....

im losing patience with the man.

Re: Power Snooker: Success or Failure ?

Postby Rocket_ron

Monique wrote:
wildJONESEYE wrote:monique

there's ansalutly no excuse known to man to justify Ronnie this weekend.

they did not know at the academy that he wasn't going to go that is inexcusable as a human being never mind a snooker player.

the least anyone can expect is a message of some kind the fact he turned out for this poo says lasyness in picking up the fone on his part.

taking part in PTC Events not the issue but letting them know is out of respect.

Where did I say anything to excuse him Wild? I didn't. On the contrary, I did clearly say there is no excuse.
I'm fed up with people jumping at me without reading what I write. Seriously.

im fed up too. there is a handfull of members that like to jump on certain members...what i sugest mon you do what im now doing set them to foe or ignore them