by footygirl » 13 Dec 2010 Read
OK everyone - I am going to have my say.
What John did was wrong - but he has served his suspension. It is not an episode that anyone would be proud of but the time has come to move on. John is back and he deserved to win last night. Yes I feel sorry for Mark - and it will take a lot of time before he forgets about last night. But please it is Christmas and it is time that we say enough said on the subject.
By all means have your own opinions on the matter but I think John regrets it now- he has had to deal with it. I am not prepared to throw anyone to the wolves over a terrible mistake.
Righ on that note rant over- let's move on and give him a second chance. He has earned it.
Back today from Telford at 3pm - am totally shattered. Thanks for the feedback on my work
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by GJ » 13 Dec 2010 Read
Hazel out
Suzy in
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by footygirl » 13 Dec 2010 Read
Eh - where did that come from and why
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by GJ » 13 Dec 2010 Read
footygirl wrote:Eh - where did that come from and why
WE NEED FRSH BLOOD ON THE TV
HAZEL HAS HAD HER TIME
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by Tubberlad » 13 Dec 2010 Read
Suzy wrote:By all means have your own opinions on the matter but I think John regrets it now- he has had to deal with it. I am not prepared to throw anyone to the wolves over a terrible mistake.
Wonderful quote Suzy... and my point exactly. I've found the adoration of Higgins really tiresome, he's not Mahatma Gandhi, but I'm equally sick of those who compare him to Mugabe. Stand up the man who claims to have never screwed up, and he's not a man at all.
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by footygirl » 13 Dec 2010 Read
I have seen some pretty strong stuff on here the last few days. I was in the press conference when John came in last night- you could see what it meant to him. He has been through a difficult time. I welcome him back
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by Witz78 » 13 Dec 2010 Read
footygirl wrote:I have seen some pretty strong stuff on here the last few days. I was in the press conference when John came in last night- you could see what it meant to him. He has been through a difficult time. I welcome him back
its a highly emotive and divisive topic of debate and the argument will roll on and on
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by Witz78 » 13 Dec 2010 Read
footygirl wrote:Eh - where did that come from and why
questions over her impartiality were raised by a concerned few during the final
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by footygirl » 13 Dec 2010 Read
And it is John who has gone through a range of emotions - and I would say today he would be emotionally drained. Let's welcome him back. I do
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by Tubberlad » 14 Dec 2010 Read
As I posted elsewhere...
A few points I'd like to make...
1) The Higgins love-in is a bit sickening. He is not a hero. He is a very fine snooker player who was really thick at the very least.
2) That said, I pity people thinking that showing emotion over your dying father is a PR exercise. Really pity them. That's hard on anyone, and it's downright low to use that as a stick to beat a man. That said, it does not change my mind on Higgins.
3) John Higgins is not a GOAT contender. Ronnie O'Sullivan isn't IMO, and Higgins is actually still lower for now in my opinion. Stephen Hendry is by far and away and away and away the greatest player of all time.
4) He was very lucky last night. I feel really bad for Williams, one of the all-time greats to lose in such a manner. I can't see him winning another major now unfortunately.
5) John Higgins did play wonderfully over the last five frames, is a class act as a player, and has once again proven himself to be one of the very finest.
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by Bourne » 14 Dec 2010 Read
From a humane side it was nice to see him win it considering his family problems that we know about and anyone can see how much it meant to him
From a sporting side again how can you not appreciate that sort of class in the game ? If you don't like him then fair enough but him being at the top of the game will help the likes of Robertson and Ding and Selby et al to raise their game again because he's given them a kick up the ass reminding them that he's still the man to beat in the game.
I understand Williams' fans disappointments of course but a big percentage of Williams fans last night weren't supporting him because they wanted him to win, they just wanted Higgins to lose for whatever reason and I think that says more about them than Higgins
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by Tubberlad » 14 Dec 2010 Read
I was not wishing a loss on Higgins, I really wanted Mark to win... was gutted to see him lose in such a manner.
It was an absolutely incredible game, and proof that our sport is bigger than one player (see Ronnie O'Sullivan). Magic...
By the way, though it has no bearing at all on my thoughts over the whole Higgins issue, I was quite moved to see his reaction in talking about his father... lovely moment.
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by randam05 » 14 Dec 2010 Read
thetubberlad wrote:I was not wishing a loss on Higgins, I really wanted Mark to win... was gutted to see him lose in such a manner.
It was an absolutely incredible game, and proof that our sport is bigger than one player (see Ronnie O'Sullivan). Magic...
By the way, though it has no bearing at all on my thoughts over the whole Higgins issue, I was quite moved to see his reaction in talking about his father... lovely moment.
well said
Sad thing is, the drama didnt start till towards the end, so viewing figures will still not be great..looking forward to seeing though..will update the tv viewings thread under GSD once i know.
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by Witz78 » 14 Dec 2010 Read
randam05 wrote:thetubberlad wrote:I was not wishing a loss on Higgins, I really wanted Mark to win... was gutted to see him lose in such a manner.
It was an absolutely incredible game, and proof that our sport is bigger than one player (see Ronnie O'Sullivan). Magic...
By the way, though it has no bearing at all on my thoughts over the whole Higgins issue, I was quite moved to see his reaction in talking about his father... lovely moment.
well said
Sad thing is, the drama didnt start till towards the end, so viewing figures will still not be great..looking forward to seeing though..will update the tv viewings thread under GSD once i know.
well last night was the record aggregate TV audience in the UK for 18 years.
Though the X Factor, Strictly, the Elton John interview got the lions share of the viewers, so i dont know how the figures tailed off once these programmes ended and the snooker was still on.
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by footygirl » 14 Dec 2010 Read
Forget X Fcator - there was only one direction in which the trophy was headed once it went to a decider
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by Roland » 14 Dec 2010 Read
Well... I'm sure the brown stuck to the pink will have something to say about that
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by Witz78 » 14 Dec 2010 Read
footygirl wrote:Forget X Fcator - there was only one direction in which the trophy was headed once it went to a decider
sadly it wasnt a Journey South
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by Roland » 14 Dec 2010 Read
Yep I've just heard he did have something to say about it and you're right
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by footygirl » 14 Dec 2010 Read
Witz78 wrote:footygirl wrote:Forget X Fcator - there was only one direction in which the trophy was headed once it went to a decider
sadly it wasnt a Journey South
Neither was it Eton Road
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by randam05 » 14 Dec 2010 Read
Its sad how 15 odd million people will watch some god dam awful x factor singing crap, but not enjoy that snooker match? seriously is there anything else in the world on tv where you will get that amount of excitement? seriously? answer that? i cannot think of any other sport or programme with that amount of drama..i seriously think if people gave snooker a chance and it had some PROMOTING there would be a growth in the sport. This countries quite sad really..the stuff people watch.
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by vodkadiet » 14 Dec 2010 Read
I think Hazel is fairly impartial.
I find Dennis Taylor's love of O'Sullivan far worse.
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by vodkadiet » 14 Dec 2010 Read
randam05 wrote:Its sad how 15 odd million people will watch some god dam awful x factor singing crap, but not enjoy that snooker match? seriously is there anything else in the world on tv where you will get that amount of excitement? seriously? answer that? i cannot think of any other sport or programme with that amount of drama..i seriously think if people gave snooker a chance and it had some PROMOTING there would be a growth in the sport. This countries quite sad really..the stuff people watch.
I find people's obsession with warbling and football vey strange.
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by Tubberlad » 14 Dec 2010 Read
randam05 wrote:seriously is there anything else in the world on tv where you will get that amount of excitement? seriously? answer that? i cannot think of any other sport or programme with that amount of drama..
I don't know... I was watching red hot dutch last Friday night, and I was pretty riveted...
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by randam05 » 14 Dec 2010 Read
vodkadiet wrote:randam05 wrote:Its sad how 15 odd million people will watch some god dam awful x factor singing crap, but not enjoy that snooker match? seriously is there anything else in the world on tv where you will get that amount of excitement? seriously? answer that? i cannot think of any other sport or programme with that amount of drama..i seriously think if people gave snooker a chance and it had some PROMOTING there would be a growth in the sport. This countries quite sad really..the stuff people watch.
I find people's obsession with warbling and football vey strange.
good...football is just dire, absoloutley awful. No excitement whatsoever, just over paid hammers kicking a football round a grass patch for 1.5 hours and it ending the famous score of 0-0 what a waste of my life. Will and have never like/d football and never intend to watch a match..i dont even watch 2 mins of the world cup. Sorry everyone, and i say everyone cause for some reason 'everyone' likes or loves football, even if they say they dont.
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by Tubberlad » 14 Dec 2010 Read
I don't like Football at all, but I still won the World Cup prediction contest
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by randam05 » 14 Dec 2010 Read
thetubberlad wrote:I don't like Football at all, but I still won the World Cup prediction contest
oo well done, i wouldnt have a clue how to predict football, simply dont have a clue about it.
Give me a quick trivia on it if you like.
Anyway, glad theres two people in england who dont like football..oo ireland sorry.
I just think its pretty much every average persons favourite thing and i find it boring and simple minded.
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by vodkadiet » 14 Dec 2010 Read
X Factor is for children and should be shown at 3.30pm on weekdays. Simon Cowell is the devil.
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by vodkadiet » 14 Dec 2010 Read
I lived for a while in New Zealand and they are fanatical about Rugby Union, and Indians are fanatical about cricket. Whilst in my opinion Rugby Union and Cricket are more interesting than football it still shows than nations can be brainwashed into liking a sport they would otherwise have little interest in.
Despite having football being pumped into me every day as a child I quickly realised it was extremely boring and wanted no part of the hype.
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by randam05 » 14 Dec 2010 Read
Despite having football being pumped into me every day as a child I quickly realised it was extremely boring and wanted no part the of hype.
good to see someone with sense!
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