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Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Wildey

Ben Harrison Next Match is if the Draw and schedule is correct which im not confident about but as it stands.

Ben Harrison plays Laurin Winters 9am BST Thursday 25th of August in Fuerth.

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby beergitte

I see Ben's one of the unfortunate players to have three qualifying matches this time.

Laurin Winters ----> Felix Pleschek ----> Allan Taylor/Dirk Hochheim ----> Martin Gould

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Wildey

Allan Taylor is the test

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Witz78

entries for this event must be up compared to other PTCs too im sure with it being in mainland Europe?

yeh Lauren Harries and Felix Leiter should be a stroll in the park and simply match practice for Benjamin before the main match with AT.

not getting much luck with the last 128 draws mind you, another provisional top 16 player in Gould now after Lee last week. Goulds form in the PTCs has been shabby though and one of the main reasons hes not comfortably inside the top 16 ahead of this cut off point looming ever closer.

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby beergitte

I agree that Taylor is the test.

Number of entries for phc is 244, but as we already know, a few have dropped off by now.
Bjorn Haneveer, Nick Pearce, Shahram Changezi to name a few. And chances are Lucky Vatnani won't be present for this one either.

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Witz78

beergitte wrote:I agree that Taylor is the test.

Number of entries for phc is 244, but as we already know, a few have dropped off by now.
Bjorn Haneveer, Nick Pearce, Shahram Changezi to name a few. And chances are Lucky Vatnani won't be present for this one either.


i wonder if Figeurido will be there since hes based in Germany :huh:

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Wildey

The way they have worked out the Schedule for this is Bizare

Some Players Will be in the Last 16 before Some players Ben included Reaches the Last 128.

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Wildey

interesting Ben said 20 points would do for a win not talking about pounds just get points.

why not reward Amataurs who wins matches with points and if they reach the last 128 give them the entry fee back say for each win up to the last 128 they get 50 points and if they reach the last 128 thoes points are converted to pounds.

Ben said hes won 6 matches well that would work out at 300 points.

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Witz78

Wild wrote:interesting Ben said 20 points would do for a win not talking about pounds just get points.

why not reward Amataurs who wins matches with points and if they reach the last 128 give them the entry fee back say for each win up to the last 128 they get 50 points and if they reach the last 128 thoes points are converted to pounds.

Ben said hes won 6 matches well that would work out at 300 points.


yeh i do agree with Bens point actually as theres no extra "reward" for winning all the games he has done.

Its almost an identical scenario to there being no prize money in some rankers up until the last 48 so you could win 3 games but still not get anymore money than someone losing in the last 96

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Wildey

its bloody tough to get in to the last 128 theres 148 amataurs starting out this week with only 32 places up for grabs in the last 128 and at a guess only about 6 or 7 of them might stand a chance of earning anything.

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Roland

I probably took out the words "I think" :redneck:

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Wildey

Pockets Snooker wrote:Good luck to both my players Ben and Stephen http://www.pocketspromotions.com
ps Ben , Stephen plays Friday morning :)

Stephen might be in the last 16 before Ben reaches the Last 128 lol

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Witz78

Wild wrote:its bloody tough to get in to the last 128 theres 148 amataurs starting out this week with only 32 places up for grabs in the last 128 and at a guess only about 6 or 7 of them might stand a chance of earning anything.


yeh with so many pros and the main round starting at last 128 theres no way round about it really.

Under the current system its ok for Ben to say, give me 20 points for making the last 128 etc but thats not gonna get him anywhere really, ultimately if he wants to make it onto tour via the PTC then he has to string together a series of shock wins over pros to get well into the tournament.

Thats whats so annoying in the Eden Sherav situation, he makes QF of PTC1 and is in pole position but then skips next 3 PTCs due to financial reasons, hes now undoing the good work and sliding down the PTC rankings and the list of non top 64 guys, plus unless he enters some more soon hes screwed as hes failed to meet the criteria of playing 3 in UK and 3 abroad so PTC1 has been a waste of time really.

Just makes me think, that come next season the step to make the top 8 amateurs from the PTC will also be made as the step made this year, whilst an improvement and step forward from last years shut shop mentality on the PTC, is still not good enough.

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Witz78

One way or another though im sure Bourne and me will see our protege weve been tipping for the top for years make it onto tour soon enough and chop down some deadwood. :D

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Bourne

Witz78 wrote:One way or another though im sure Bourne and me will see our protege weve been tipping for the top for years make it onto tour soon enough and chop down some deadwood. :D

:win:

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Witz78

Whats the defintive list of OUR proteges anyway Bourne

heres all the young guns i consider to be ones ive championed in recent years, im sure youve a few more to add.....

Trump
Wenbo
Double J
Lisowski
Brecel
Zhang
TT
Guodong
Un-Nooh
Ants
Micky White
Kasper
Chuang
B-Force Harrison

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Wildey

pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee i beggggggggggggg youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu leave Ben Alone he wants a chance to succeed without the kiss of death suporting him :irk:

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Witz78

Wild wrote:pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee i beggggggggggggg youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu leave Ben Alone he wants a chance to succeed without the kiss of death suporting him :irk:


Yeh just like we gave Trump the kiss of death <doh>

more like we gave him the kiss of life :limp: whilst you lot labelled him deadwood at the age of 20 <doh>

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Wildey

anyway on to rest of the blog he is beating who he supose to be beating and results are getting better as the PTC Goes on

PTC 1 he strugled to get past Brian Cox and lost 4-0 to Joyce then PTC 2 he swept both amataurs aside before Harold Ground him out but then in PTC 3 he came close to beat a Pro thats playing well that Went on to beat Ding and Mark Allen.

so the results are moving in the right direction

3 PTC with 3 Last 128s only players ranked in the top 64 in the world have beaten him but nothing to show for it.

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Roland

Haha he'll be alright with witz behind him.

This is from the Pink Ribbon, the guy he was playing was hilarious - the one shot he played in this clip sums him up, he was a hacker extraordinaire and Ben found it hard to focus even though he was never going to lose a frame or even have one go to the colours.

You can see he's right at the end of the cue, and the clip also gives a good impression of how he plays with a left-handed shot thrown in for good measure.

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby beergitte

Witz78 wrote:
Wild wrote:its bloody tough to get in to the last 128 theres 148 amataurs starting out this week with only 32 places up for grabs in the last 128 and at a guess only about 6 or 7 of them might stand a chance of earning anything.


yeh with so many pros and the main round starting at last 128 theres no way round about it really.

Under the current system its ok for Ben to say, give me 20 points for making the last 128 etc but thats not gonna get him anywhere really, ultimately if he wants to make it onto tour via the PTC then he has to string together a series of shock wins over pros to get well into the tournament.

Thats whats so annoying in the Eden Sherav situation, he makes QF of PTC1 and is in pole position but then skips next 3 PTCs due to financial reasons, hes now undoing the good work and sliding down the PTC rankings and the list of non top 64 guys, plus unless he enters some more soon hes screwed as hes failed to meet the criteria of playing 3 in UK and 3 abroad so PTC1 has been a waste of time really.

Just makes me think, that come next season the step to make the top 8 amateurs from the PTC will also be made as the step made this year, whilst an improvement and step forward from last years shut shop mentality on the PTC, is still not good enough.


I think that Eden Sharav has entered ptc's 5-9.

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Witz78

WTF was that double / treble / quadruple attempt haha reminds me of myself when the red mist descends and ive lost the plot.

and why did Ben also try a double after him, albeit successfully?

looked a straightforward cut into pocket on both occasions.

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Witz78

beergitte wrote:
Witz78 wrote:
Wild wrote:its bloody tough to get in to the last 128 theres 148 amataurs starting out this week with only 32 places up for grabs in the last 128 and at a guess only about 6 or 7 of them might stand a chance of earning anything.


yeh with so many pros and the main round starting at last 128 theres no way round about it really.

Under the current system its ok for Ben to say, give me 20 points for making the last 128 etc but thats not gonna get him anywhere really, ultimately if he wants to make it onto tour via the PTC then he has to string together a series of shock wins over pros to get well into the tournament.

Thats whats so annoying in the Eden Sherav situation, he makes QF of PTC1 and is in pole position but then skips next 3 PTCs due to financial reasons, hes now undoing the good work and sliding down the PTC rankings and the list of non top 64 guys, plus unless he enters some more soon hes screwed as hes failed to meet the criteria of playing 3 in UK and 3 abroad so PTC1 has been a waste of time really.

Just makes me think, that come next season the step to make the top 8 amateurs from the PTC will also be made as the step made this year, whilst an improvement and step forward from last years shut shop mentality on the PTC, is still not good enough.


I think that Eden Sharav has entered ptc's 5-9.


good, im sure after his PTC1 exploits, he secured some sponsorship

i dunno why they need to have entries for blocks of 4 PTCs in at once, just a money making scam as they know most people will pay to enter them all even if they dont play them all.

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Wildey

Witz78 wrote:WTF was that double / treble / quadruple attempt haha reminds me of myself when the red mist descends and ive lost the plot.

and why did Ben also try a double after him, albeit successfully?

looked a straightforward cut into pocket on both occasions.

safe to say ben could have played doubles,trebles,used his butt end even use his sausage and he wouldnt have lost lol

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Witz78

think ill be entering the 2012 Pink Ribbon if the likes of him (and Sonny) are some of the competition haha

Re: Ben's Progression

Postby Roland

It must've been at 3-0 and there's no way he would've been behind at that point anyway. Neither of us two would've had a problem in winning 4-0 he was that bad. He was a comedian with it though, he had us in stitches with some of the shots he went for. One of the funniest was looking across at Ben and saying "red" then smashing the pack as hard as he could rofl